Engine position/reference trace

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Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:38 am

Hi all

How does my Engine position and reference wave forms look?

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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:58 am

ECU view -

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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby Stephen Dean on Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:17 am

The Pullups should be on for Hall Effect sensors.
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby AlanB on Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:46 pm

Also, the Hysteresis for ref and sync should be a fixed value for hall effect sensors. I would suggest 1V.
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:51 pm

Thanks all, that is lunch times task.

Is the fact that the speed trace is "inverted" an issue?

I have ordered a sensor to match the reference one but just interested (especially if I need to use a wheel speed sensor in an emergency!).
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby AlanB on Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:54 pm

Both ref and sync traces look fine.
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:00 pm

Thanks
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:32 am

OK, think I am nearly there.

Fitted a ZF GS1001 sensor to the crank and enabled the pull up and am now getting an RPM!!!

The only odd things are -

The peak voltage on the ZF GS1001 is only 3.9V...is this normal?

For info I tried to enable the pull on the Sync sensor and instead of having a 0-5.5V square wave I then had a 3-5.5V square wave. Weird. I disabled the pull up.

Just need to confirm where the missing teeth are in relation to TDC now!

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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby Stephen Dean on Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:55 am

Hi,

It's fairly typical that a 5V+ fed Hall Effect sensor will output a 0~4V square wave signal.
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Re: Engine position/reference trace

Postby greenamex2 on Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:40 pm

Thanks Stephen

Done a compression test, all good. Now on to the missing tooth position, DBW config, TPS adapters and about a dozen fuel hoses to make up!
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