I haven't sync.what mode is?

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I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby remivrt on Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:08 pm

HI.I put a plug n play m800 subaru gt on a vw vr6.I have only one tooth sensor 60-2 and not sync.I have fuel but not spark.what mode is?
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby stevieturbo on Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:05 pm

remivrt wrote:HI.I put a plug n play m800 subaru gt on a vw vr6.I have only one tooth sensor 60-2 and not sync.I have fuel but not spark.what mode is?


What is a Subaru GT ?

And as it's a pnp unit, seemingly the crank/cam setups in those ecu's are intended specifically for those applications.

So what pnp unit are you trying to use ?
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby remivrt on Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:53 pm

It's a M800 subaru gt 2000 .217 HP. with mode 2 MULTI teeth I have fuel. and when I use test output, INJ 1,2,3,4,5,6 IT'S OK , but IGN 1,2,3 nothing, not spark just a little noise in the coil
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby stevieturbo on Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:31 am

So you're using a conventional Subaru 2.0 4cyl turbo engine ?

What year ?

And I'm sure it has been said before, that PNP units will only work with the crank/cam setup they were sold for.

So are you using the OEM crank/cam trigger for the Subaru engine...and if not, why not ?

Edit...just read you're trying to use a Subaru pnp unit on another engine.

Really not sure you can do this ? Can you do a ref/sync capture to see if it reads ok ?
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby remivrt on Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:52 am

No .I use a motor 2798cc . 6 CYL VW VR6..
It's not possible without Sync? :cry:
because a many ecu set without sync.

I have Just Ref signal 60-2.crip:77.
Sorry I am new with motec.

Thank for your help stevieturbo
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby remivrt on Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:01 am

If I use mode 49 720 degré mode (full sequential).? It's good?
I would do capture this week end.sorry I'm overwhelmed because of a delocation
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby AdamW on Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:28 am

For 6 cyl engine with 60-2 wheel on crank and no sync/cam sensor you need ref/sync mode #8 and you need to set number of cylinders to "36". Ignition outputs need to be wired in wasted spark arrangement.
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby remivrt on Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:01 pm

thank you very much adamW, It ' very cool. just for my curiousity ,why 36 for number cyl ?
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby AdamW on Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:03 pm

remivrt wrote:just for my curiousity ,why 36 for number cyl ?

I dont know where the "36" and "48" cylinder terminologies came from but they have been conventions in the Motec software for many years. No. of cylinders = "36" is used to designate a 6 cyl, 4 stroke engine that is synced every 360° (rather than the more common sync every 720°)
If you use Ref/sync mode #8 with a crank trigger and set the number of cylinders "6", then we are telling the ECU that 6 cylinders would fire every sync event (360°), so you can see that setting cylinders to "6" will not work in your case.
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Re: I haven't sync.what mode is?

Postby harky on Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:59 pm

Adam
does it follow that 24 would be the "setting "for a 4 cyclinder ?
I was working on this issue some time back and fitted a cam sensor , bit was sure there was a way around that !
oh -- that was with an M4 too ??
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