TPMS on C127?

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TPMS on C127?

Postby 13cobra on Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:53 am

What's the most economical way of getting TPMS on a C127?
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby David Ferguson on Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:40 pm

I'm currently installing a Trailbrake TPMS system for a customer. Since it uses production parts, the price seems reasonable.

https://trailbrake.com/tire-tpms/
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby 13cobra on Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:43 am

David Ferguson wrote:I'm currently installing a Trailbrake TPMS system for a customer. Since it uses production parts, the price seems reasonable.

https://trailbrake.com/tire-tpms/


Interesting!

So it's $225/sensor? Then they just communicate via CAN with the Motec and can have a page in the display made to show the data?

Also, are you currently doing the internal or external sensors?
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby David Ferguson on Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:55 am

No, the complete 4-wheel system is $225 with the receiver and 4 internal or external sensors. Look at the pictures to see all the parts. The internal sensors are $32 each. It sends Pressure, Airtemp, internal battery voltage and a leak alarm from each wheel at 5 hz, on a 1Mbit CAN bus.

My customer bought the TPMS unlimited with the base system + 4 internal sensors (8 total) for $401:

https://trailbrake.com/tpms-unlimited/? ... UiOjEwMjZ9

Spare sensors:
https://trailbrake.com/tpms-unlimited-sensor/
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby 13cobra on Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:07 am

David Ferguson wrote:No, the complete 4-wheel system is $225 with the receiver and 4 internal or external sensors. Look at the pictures to see all the parts. The internal sensors are $32 each. It sends Pressure, Airtemp, internal battery voltage and a leak alarm from each wheel at 5 hz, on a 1Mbit CAN bus.

My customer bought the TPMS unlimited with the base system + 4 internal sensors (8 total) for $401:

https://trailbrake.com/tpms-unlimited/? ... UiOjEwMjZ9

Spare sensors:
https://trailbrake.com/tpms-unlimited-sensor/


Ah, I was sold at $1800 haha

I would much prefer the internal sensors. Do I need to buy the training tool as well? I would assume so, but you didn't mention your client did.
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby David Ferguson on Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:09 am

No, they came pre-programmed two sensors already labeled for each corner of the car.
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby 13cobra on Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:15 am

David Ferguson wrote:No, they came pre-programmed two sensors already labeled for each corner of the car.


Did you have any issue, or foresee any issue integrating into the Motec Dash Logger?
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby David Ferguson on Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:29 am

I wound not have suggested it if I did not think it would work with your dash / logger.

Here is the CAN Comm Template I created from the documentation. You may need to change the channels to suit your installations (not sure you will have all the channels I used). And the sensor voltage is in .1V units, but the channel I chose only has whole units, so I just left it multiplied by 10 (so 31 means 3.1V).
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby Stephen Dean on Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:54 am

A 5Hz update rate is better than the 1hz that they mention in the specs. How accurate are the pressures read by the sensors compared to an accurate tyre gauge David?
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Re: TPMS on C127?

Postby David Ferguson on Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:59 am

Since I don't have it really working, I can't confirm, the protocol claims to send data every 200ms, but perhaps that's one wheel every 200ms, so closer to 1 HZ.

Our project just came to a stop a few minutes ago. The internal sensors don't fit the valve-stem opening in the BBS wheels my customer is using. Wheels are about 8.5mm, and the sensor needs something like 11.5mm.
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