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Re: injector Setup

Postby David Ferguson on Wed May 04, 2016 5:10 am

Since his package is named "Supra ID1000, 3.5 bar base calibration", I would bet it has the injector characterization set at ID1000. Perhaps this question would be easily answered by JRR.
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Re: injector Setup

Postby CarloL on Wed May 04, 2016 6:12 am

David Ferguson wrote:Since his package is named "Supra ID1000, 3.5 bar base calibration", I would bet it has the injector characterization set at ID1000. Perhaps this question would be easily answered by JRR.


It is set for ID1000, my question was in regard to the drop down list to select the injector; Stephen said there is a drop down list of supported injectors but I cannot find one

I was wondering what injectors are characterised , incase I have to purchase new ones
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Re: injector Setup

Postby David Ferguson on Wed May 04, 2016 7:28 am

Since this package is based from the earlier firmware, the "drop-down" list of injector isn't present. The complete injector characterization does look like it's there based on your screen shot. So you could "import" the tables values for whatever injectors you had data for.

I think your real question is -- what is the complete list of injectors that Motec has characterized. That is found by loading a package based on the July 2015 or later 1.04 firmware and then looking at the pull-down list. When I do that, I see ASNU (11 models), Bosch (71 models), DeatschWerks (6 models), Delphi (2 models), Denso (53 models), Finjector, Five O Motorsport, Fuel Injector Clinic (2 models), Fuel Injector Development, Grams, Hitachi, Injector Dynamics (4 models), Kawasaki, Keihin (13 models), Kia, Lucas, Magneti Marelli, Mitsubshi (3 models), Moran (9 models), MPC, Nissan (3 models), Precision (2 models), RC, Rochester (2), SARD, Seimens Deka (19)Weber (6), XSPURT.
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Re: injector Setup

Postby CarloL on Wed May 04, 2016 7:34 am

Thanks David! ;)

I tried the FT86 package too ,(default downloaded with the M1 Tune latest software)
Will try a different package from here
https://moteconline.motec.com.au/Package
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Re: injector Setup

Postby David Ferguson on Wed May 04, 2016 7:40 am

Try a generic GPA or GPR package -- they keep moving forward with the latest enhancements. The completed applications may not get as many updates, as they are working...
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Re: injector Setup

Postby CarloL on Wed May 04, 2016 7:41 am

Thanks! Will do
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Re: injector Setup

Postby Stephen Dean on Wed May 04, 2016 9:55 am

CarloL wrote:What about using a simple Voltage table with the OE Injectors?


With a VE system, the ECU needs to know how much fuel is injected for a given pulse width in the non linear region of the injector pulse for an accurate fuel delivery, if it doesn't have this information, or it is wrong, then you will be chasing your Lambda constantly, and you will struggle to get the idle and driveability in the non linear regions operating smoothly.

David Ferguson wrote:Try a generic GPA or GPR package -- they keep moving forward with the latest enhancements. The completed applications may not get as many updates, as they are working...


The JRR package is also a custom package build on the previous version of the firmware, so it is up to JRR to update their packages to suit the changes that have been made with the later versions.
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Re: injector Setup

Postby CarloL on Wed May 04, 2016 4:57 pm

Thanks for the explanation Stephen, I am trying to source a spare OE injector
Car will be getting fitted out/mapped by Robbie Thorton at TDP here in Ireland

Can I send you the injector on his behalf, to save on time, I will try and source one locally in Australia or it may be an option to purchase off Toyota , I can send you the money

I imagine they are around 120 dollar mark each, by the time I post from Ireland and purchase a 2nd one it won't be far off the price plus with a new injector we know it is working 100%
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Re: injector Setup

Postby CarloL on Wed May 04, 2016 5:55 pm

Sorry for all the Q's

As a Failsafe I can get Sard Injectors to work with the OEM rail, what models are characterised ?
If possible ASNU list of inJectors

Brand: SARD
Product: Fuel Injectors Set - 800cc High Toyota Aristo Supra Soarer Mark II
Part Num: 63564 (x6)

SPECIFICATION:
Feed Type: Side
Set Includes:
- 6x Injectors
Flow Rate: 800cc
Impedance: High
Number of Spray: 2
Color coupler: Tea
Coupler Geometry: Ellipse
Lag time: 1.60msec


I tired a few Packages from here https://moteconline.motec.com.au/Package
All I can see in the drop down is ID1000 or Manual

Packages I tired
GPA (M130) 1.07 February 2016 M130 397 23061
GPR (M150) 1.07 February 2016 M150 402 23072
Toyota 86 2012 Engine Swap 1.02 February 2016 M150 384 23070

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Re: injector Setup

Postby Stephen Dean on Wed May 04, 2016 6:23 pm

Hi Carlo,

That green box in the top Right Hand corner of M1 Tune is the Updates notification, if you click on that and install the updates listed in all of the tabs, then you will see the other calibrations that are available to you.
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