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Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:53 pm
by Holmz
Is there a provision in i2 for computing the aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag?
If I know the speed and mass of the vehicle and do a coast down it is mathematically possible to do this.
(Just hopping it is i2 possible)
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:55 am
by JamieA
There is no pre-defined function to do this. If you have the understanding, you should be able to creat the calculation in either maths, or using a custom function.
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:14 pm
by RossB
Some calculations I use are:
Rolling resistance horsepower = 0,013xVehicle weight (lbs)xspeed (MPH)/375
Air resistance horsepower = frontal area (sq ft) x Cd x 0.00256 x (speed (MPH) cubed)/375
Not exactly what you are looking for but if you know frontal area and power you could reverse the calculation to give Cd.
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:55 pm
by Holmz
RossB wrote:Some calculations I use are:
Rolling resistance horsepower = 0,013xVehicle weight (lbs)xspeed (MPH)/375
Air resistance horsepower = frontal area (sq ft) x Cd x 0.0256 x (speed (MPH) cubed)/375
Not exactly what you are looking for but if you know frontal area and power you could reverse the calculation to give Cd.
Thanks Ross,
Where do I get documentation on how to use the external maths with i2?
I think that is probably where I should start.
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:52 am
by gixxer_drew
I'm getting some odd results with that calculation
I put it into excel like this
20*0.32*0.0256*150^3/375
150 corresponds to speed in MPH
0.32 Cd
20sq/ft frontal area
=1474 HP?
What am I doing wrong there?
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:24 pm
by RossB
Oops! I made a typo in my calculation, it should read:
Air resistance horsepower = frontal area (sq ft) x Cd x 0.00256 x (speed (MPH) cubed)/375 so the result wouild be out by a decimal point! The 0.0256 should be 0.00256. I will edit the original post with the correct number.
Re: Aerodynamic coefficient of drag (cdA) and wheel drag
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:45 pm
by Holmz
Thanks Ross...
I am doing it the other way around - so I'll measure the speed and roll the vehicle down and get the cdA (coefficient * area) as well as the wheel drag, with both of those based off of empirical measurement.
So (time permitting) I should have a a follow up in a few weeks...