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help me pleas ?

Postby towaim on Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:13 pm

hi

i have motec m800

And I want to I know how up timing or down timing ?
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby Polux RSV on Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:28 pm

Hi,
Up or down what? Timing of what?

And reading various manuals and seminar notes are a good starting point.

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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby oah on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:32 am

Dear
please clarify your ask...
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby mr2andy on Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:49 am

I think what he meant is either advancing or retarding the timing.
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby Dragon on Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:23 am

Seek professional hep.
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby towaim on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:25 am

Yes, I mean this site you mr2andy
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby oah on Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:43 am

Dear
Knowing how to adjust the timing depend on your experience in tuning, so need the knock detector to hear or see the knocking..... in the timing tuning section you must increase or decrease the timing degree carefully to have a good torque :idea: without :idea: knocking.
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby Holmz on Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:40 pm

The question of how to add or retard advance is really either a question of how to do it in the s/w or how to do it in theory/practice

My understanding:
Is that the detonation tends to become more probable with increasing advance.
Also the torque comes up fast as the advance is added but then hits a plateau. As even more advance is added the torque does not increase too much - but the cylinder head temp increases and detonation probability increases.
Also with too much advance the EGT tends to decrease as more energy is getting soaked into the head and piston crown with too much advance - resulting in less heat present in the exhaust.

I guess you either need:
1) a knock sensor
2) an EGT sensor
3) A dyno and not go overly aggressive on the ignition advance...

Or some combination of the 3 options.
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Re: help me pleas ?

Postby Wolf_Tm250 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:47 pm

towaim wrote:Yes, I mean this site you mr2andy




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