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Re: no spark

Postby AdamW on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:05 pm

andy_hstad wrote:Okej. Det spark and sync error is fixed. But i hace one more question.
How do i set dead time comp and how do i set if i have low or high impedance injectors?
i have siemens deka 3145 788 cc injectors.


Your injectors are low impedance, ~2.4ohms.
These settings should work reasonable:
Set IJCU to 3.0amps (assuming you have only 4 injectors)
Set IJbc to -1
Set injector dead time comp table up like this:
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Re: no spark

Postby andy_hstad on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:59 pm

Thanks adam.
i think ijcu should be 4 amp if i read the info on the injectors right.


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Re: no spark

Postby andy_hstad on Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:14 am

Okej i have 2 more questions now

can i calibrate gm 3 bar map sensor ass 300?
Why does motec whant me to connect ign 1 to Spark pluggs 1 and 3 and ign 2 to 2 and 4. I am driving with waste spark and ignition is 1 3 4 2 i cant get it. It should be 1- 4 and 2-3 help me understand.

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Re: no spark

Postby Holmz on Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:07 am

andy_hstad wrote:Okej
...
Why does motec whant me to connect ign 1 to Spark pluggs 1 and 3 and ign 2 to 2 and 4. I am driving with waste spark and ignition is 1 3 4 2 i cant get it. It should be 1- 4 and 2-3 help me understand.

Andreas


Hej Andreas.
Can you draw a picture, of what the numbers mean at the engine and at the ECU...
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Re: no spark

Postby AdamW on Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:32 am

andy_hstad wrote:can i calibrate gm 3 bar map sensor ass 300?
Why does motec whant me to connect ign 1 to Spark pluggs 1 and 3 and ign 2 to 2 and 4. I am driving with waste spark and ignition is 1 3 4 2 i cant get it. It should be 1- 4 and 2-3 help me understand.

Andreas


Yes, 300 is correct setting for the GM 3bar MAP.
For your firing order have you set up the table at >General setup>firing order with your correct firing order?
You are correct that your coils should be paired ign1=1&4, ign2=2&3 so don't worry too much if these are displayed/labelled incorrectly in the motec software, it will still work ok.
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Re: no spark

Postby andy_hstad on Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:14 pm

Okej then tthen the motec electricel drwaing whas wrong.

thanks for all your help. Now i can try to start the car.
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Re: no spark

Postby Holmz on Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:11 am

AdamW wrote:... so don't worry too much if these are displayed/labelled incorrectly in the motec software, it will still work ok.


injectors too?
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Re: no spark

Postby andy_hstad on Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:07 am

okay new thought. Once I have set the fire order 1 3 4 2 and run the injectors test cylinder 2 is 4 and so on. if i set the fire orders 1 2 3 4 everything is just right. If I test the injectors 3, it is cylinder 2 but all connections according to electrical diagram. Any explanation?
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Re: no spark

Postby SprinterTRD on Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:41 am

The Injector outputs 1, 2, 3 & 4 are names of the output ( and the order they operate )not the cylinder number.

The docs says wire them in firing order
so
injector output 1 = CYL1
Injector output 2 = CYL3
injector output 3 = CYL4
injector output 4 = CYL2

When you set the firing order in the software it does nothing to the outputs, it only changes the labels in the software to match the actual cylinder.

IE makes more sense to know you are adjusting CYL4 rather than injector output 3 ( which is CYL4)
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Re: no spark

Postby Holmz on Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:14 pm

andy_hstad wrote:okay new thought. Once I have set the fire order 1 3 4 2 and run the injectors test cylinder 2 is 4 and so on. if i set the fire orders 1 2 3 4 everything is just right. If I test the injectors 3, it is cylinder 2 but all connections according to electrical diagram. Any explanation?


Well I thought the order was firing order, so we got insight.
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